Dale descends to the creative basement within, for a conversation with Erin Fein of the band Psychic Twin. Erin’s debut album Strange Diary was released in 2016 through Polyvinyl Records. Its dense compositions and piercing lyrics captured the emotional upheaval of Erin’s personal life, while signaling the start of a new chapter in her artistic career. Erin and Dale talk about seeking out the light in what seems like unyielding emptiness and going literally underground to find one’s creative voice. Dale can certainly relate to Erin’s path. In Dale’s case it was picking up the microphone after long walks down by the Gowanus, for Erin it was months surrounded by dusty synths in a basement in Urbana, Illinois. With great openness and honesty, the two talk about early influences, choosing the right exo-skeleton, manifesting another self to process grief, and having your signature sound be something associated with your most painful memory. Ultimately, Erin describes a journey not unlike Dale’s, but with more competitive ice skating. Plus Dale shares the story of a recent encounter with a man who may have been a psychic twin from another dimension.