Dale receives the vibrations of the universe as he welcomes Elizabeth Ziman (Elizabeth and the Catapult) back to the Deep Night. Elizabeth was a joyful part of the early Deep Night live streaming shows presented in the spring of 2020, just as the pandemic was surging through New York. Dale recalls what it was like to encounter Elizabeth’s music for the first time in those dark days, and the two discuss what’s changed for the them both over this past year is isolation. Elizabeth also shares a bit about coming into her own as a singer and songwriter, how important weekly live broadcasts have become for her, and the process of writing an album during quarantine. The two also discuss the magic, science, and timing that has to be present for the perfect song to emerge. Plus Dale attends a Zoom gathering for soothsayers.