Dale understands the desire to run off and join a circus, especially given some recent developments on the Deep Night commune. He talks about those impulses and the joys of creative collaboration with actor, director, and writer, Britt Lower. Britt has a new film out now called Circus Person, which is a lyrical and beautiful rumination on loss, heartbreak, and the process of healing. Britt and Dale’s conversation also covers face painting at festivals in the Midwest, holding onto essential truths, and the enduring appeal of the life under the big top. Plus Dale offers a few Deep Notes for further study and highlights a recent publication from one of his favorite Deep Night artists.